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Old 27/07/2017, 09:45 AM   #1
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When I was surfing game-mp.com I saw the rules:

a) That you are over the age of 18 years.
b) That servers listed on your account are owned or leased by you, or you lease the IP address associated with the listing.


I see dozens of servers are ignoring this two rules. I have IP addresses including what I said. So I reported them twice to support@game-mp.com with mail but noone cared about that. You could check from whois. Some of them belong to a company called "Fiberserver"(they are not provide, they lease VPS from OVH) and others belong to one person even not a official company. It is not legal in Turkey because he does not pay tax for it. Please do what your rules reqiure.

Here is IP list: https://pastebin.com/QgDWWsPp
Here is the seller: https://pastebin.com/cc3GkCv9
Here is another seller(not even a company): https://pastebin.com/3MPPDaSQ

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Old 27/07/2017, 10:15 AM   #2
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Well aren't you a partypooper. Think of which battles you pick carefully before entering them because you had a choice but let me tell you a few things. Breaking a ToS is never ever right thing to do but sometimes, for a the better good of multiple parties, it's an actual good thing to do.

Look at it this way. Let's say that I don't have my own game-mp account and I would need to pay someone else 25 USD (something like that I'm guess?) to put my server on hosted tab. Who benefits? Everyone except for crybabies. Let me break it down even further:
  • Seller of hosted listings gets money - win
  • Game-MP receives money - win
  • Server who is being hosted gets more recognition - win
  • SA-MP community as a whole gets more creators creating things hoping that there is a way to get higher population, not to even mention that this keeps also players who have game-mp accounts to continue selling and making SA-MP indirectly active (not the major factor but still a minor one) - win

Now you decide to go SA-MP forums with this intention of yours to destroy a piece of this big outcome, probably without even acknowledging it in the first place, just to get an ego boost and feel good that you destroy it for a few players, servers or scripters who put a lot of effort in their gamemodes. Now this isn't always the case, that a hosted server will absolutely get players or they will even have scripters who cares about the gamemode, but I'd guess that in some cases there are.

So next time you decide to pick a battle, make sure you get something more than an ego boost out of it, because that won't make SA-MP stay alive for as long as it can.
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Old 27/07/2017, 10:24 AM   #3
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"leased by you" covers the usage of VPSes, so really that shits on your entire post of "belong to a company"
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Old 27/07/2017, 10:37 AM   #4
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Well aren't you a partypooper. Think of which battles you pick carefully before entering them because you had a choice but let me tell you a few things. Breaking a ToS is never ever right thing to do but sometimes, for a the better good of multiple parties, it's an actual good thing to do.

Look at it this way. Let's say that I don't have my own game-mp account and I would need to pay someone else 25 USD (something like that I'm guess?) to put my server on hosted tab. Who benefits? Everyone except for crybabies. Let me break it down even further:
  • Seller of hosted listings gets money - win
  • Game-MP receives money - win
  • Server who is being hosted gets more recognition - win
  • SA-MP community as a whole gets more creators creating things hoping that there is a way to get higher population, not to even mention that this keeps also players who have game-mp accounts to continue selling and making SA-MP indirectly active (not the major factor but still a minor one) - win

Now you decide to go SA-MP forums with this intention of yours to destroy a piece of this big outcome, probably without even acknowledging it in the first place, just to get an ego boost and feel good that you destroy it for a few players, servers or scripters who put a lot of effort in their gamemodes. Now this isn't always the case, that a hosted server will absolutely get players or they will even have scripters who cares about the gamemode, but I'd guess that in some cases there are.

So next time you decide to pick a battle, make sure you get something more than an ego boost out of it, because that won't make SA-MP stay alive for as long as it can.
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Old 27/07/2017, 10:41 AM   #5
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Who's this hurting and who cares?
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Old 27/07/2017, 10:54 AM   #6
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When sellers sell listings to players, they send a kind of ToS, which states that they are giving partial ownership of their server to lister (this is just formality).
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Old 27/07/2017, 11:08 AM   #7
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"leased by you" covers the usage of VPSes, so really that shits on your entire post of "belong to a company"
I forgot to add "they are not provider, just leasing from someone else and lease to someone else." And I have no purpose to destroy something. Just saying they are breaking the rules. Do not mad at me.
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Old 27/07/2017, 11:31 AM   #8
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We are not angry or mad but we (or well at least I) highly suggested that you see this as an opportunity of learning. I once had a good intention of bringing justice against rule breakers, in a community, people who abused a certain game in a way to benefit themselves. I didn't think it would hurt anyone, I just wanted people to play fairly. This intention of mine, although just like yours didn't seem too bad, made it to be one of the bigger causes of why a whole community fell down. I'm not saying this because "oh I'm so powerful I can destroy communities omg watch out for me!!" I'm saying this simply because I now know that picking every single fight is not worth it in the long run so instead of just doing what I think is good intention, I look ahead and see if it's really going to benefit more than destroy... Even if that means upholding my "good" intentions.
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Old 27/07/2017, 11:47 AM   #9
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We are not angry or mad but we (or well at least I) highly suggested that you see this as an opportunity of learning. I once had a good intention of bringing justice against rule breakers, in a community, people who abused a certain game in a way to benefit themselves. I didn't think it would hurt anyone, I just wanted people to play fairly. This intention of mine, although just like yours didn't seem too bad, made it to be one of the bigger causes of why a whole community fell down. I'm not saying this because "oh I'm so powerful I can destroy communities omg watch out for me!!" I'm saying this simply because I now know that picking every single fight is not worth it in the long run so instead of just doing what I think is good intention, I look ahead and see if it's really going to benefit more than destroy... Even if that means upholding my "good" intentions.
You really deserve REP man, taking the time to address this matter. Not many people do that these days like the old days.
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Old 27/07/2017, 12:10 PM   #10
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I forgot to add "they are not provider, just leasing from someone else and lease to someone else." And I have no purpose to destroy something. Just saying they are breaking the rules. Do not mad at me.
You don't understand that when you hire a server from some company, that you are in effect leasing it, and you are in control of it, therefore making it YOUR leased server.

This fits in the rules.
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